Friday, August 13, 2021

Bollywood Vinyl Records - Where to Buy

 In my earlier post I had talked about Bollywood Vinyl Records in general, I have been collecting records for a few months now and have bought all records online or through WhatsApp and the experience has been very different in terms on record condition and pricing.

The most important thing while buying records in the CONDITION of the record, all the retailers have the guidelines but they don't really follow them and you can get very different records for the same condition. The prices are very different based from retailer and condition of records.

I like to listen to the Vinyl LP / EP records on headphones so the condition of the records is very important to me as the listening experience can be spoiled if the record is not good.

In my experience so far, try to stick with a few retailers that maintain and have a proper storage for records, stay away from small / one time retailers / WhatsApp group as they don't take proper care of records.

I had ordered a record from a small retailer and they sold be saying record condition is VG+ when actually it was close to G+.

Below are few websites / retailers that I have ordered so far and my experience with them

  1. TheRevolverClub - https://www.therevolverclub.com/

This was the first retailer that I ordered from and their service is EXCELLENT. Although they have a limited number of records in Bollywood, but they are very fair with their ratings for Record condition ( grading) and send the records across safely. They use FEDEX for shipping and charge Rs 150 flat as shipping fees. 

Their customer service is great and they have policy to return record if something happens during shipping.

The pricing is on higher side, but the records are well managed, cleaned and properly graded. One can also join their membership program and get 10% off code for their new arrivals records.

Return Policy - YES 

Number of records bought - 10+

          RECOMMENDED - YES, I recommend them !

      2. Music Circle - https://musiccircle.co.in/

This online retailer also has a decent collection of records and the records are updated on a regular basis, almost daily. The grading for records is fair and records are well maintained. 

You will find almost all products on a discounted price, but the price shown is NOT inclusive of GST ( 18%), so you will actually pay more than the price of the record when GST is added to checkout. Also for some reason, they are charging GST on TOTAL including shipping, which is wrong. This said, new records are available at MRP which is good.

The other issue is that their shipping depends on number of records, if you buy more they charge you more for shipping, which again does not make sense as most of the retailers will either charge flat shipping or give you discount on shipping if you buy more. They have good customer service available and fast shipping (the records are shipped out same day)

          Return Policy - N/A 

Number of records bought - 6

RECOMMENDED - Yes, I recommend them, but be careful of their pricing.

      3. Amazon India -  https://www.amazon.in/

Amazon India has lots of records available from sellers both for Bollywood and English records as well. The resellers pricing is an issue as it is very high, I have only bought couple of records from them, which were new and got delivered without any issues.

The major benefit of Amazon is that you can use card offers and gift cards to pay for the records, which is helpful as the retailers themselves will not provide this benefit. Also the shipping charges are low and Amazon will also help in case there are any physical damages.

Return Policy - NO, all records are not returnable category

Number of Records Bought - 2

RECOMMENDED - Neutral ( YES for new records )

      4. FlipKart - https://www.flipkart.com/ 

Very similar to Amazon India, Flipkart also sells Vinyl records through resellers, I have bough a few old records and was disappointed, with the grading of records. One seller sold records as NM when it was G+, the prices are very high for the records. The records are very poorly graded.

As with Amazon, you can use Gift Card for payments and take benefit of credit card offers.

Return Policy - No, All records are not returnable category

Number of Records Bought - 2

RECOMMENDED - NO, stay away !

      5. Bollywood Vinyl - https://bollywoodvinyl.in/ 

This was my second place where I bought my Vinyl records for and they come up if you search for records in Google. They do have a good collection of records and the records are fairly graded. For some reason I only bought ONE record from them, but it was good one with competitive pricing. They are based out of Bangalore. 

Customer service is okay, I had an issue where the shipping was taking time and didn't get 100% timely response from the seller, but record arrived after some delay. 

 Return Policy - N/A

Number of Records Bought - 1

RECOMMENDED - Neutral 

      6. 123sold - https://www.123sold.in/ 

This company is based our of Delhi and they have a very large collection of Bollywood records from old ones to new ones. Their pricing is kind of fixed, Rs 1999 for new records, Rs 2000 for old Bollywood records and Rs 3000 for Bollywood rare records. They also have some records with very high price 10,000+ which I feel is bizarre.

They do not update their website regularly, so check with them if the records are available before ordering, I had ordered couple of records and both were out of stock.

I don't really recommend them because of their pricing, but they do have a large selection of records and almost most of the records are available with them, you can give them a try. Also their pricing in inclusive of taxes and shipping, so that is a plus.


Apart from these, I have also used small resellers or people on WhatsApp groups, I will suggest to stay AWAY from them, simply because they don't invest in maintaining, cleaning and proper storage of records and their record grades are way off than what it should be. I have had very poor experiences with such orders. Remember these records are expensive and if you get a bad one, you can't really do anything about it so you have to buy a new one and would end up putting up more money for same record, better buy a good one in first place itself.

The above are all my personal experiences and does not reflect anything on the sellers themselves, as these vary from customer to customer.




Sunday, August 8, 2021

Bollywood Vinyl Records - Suggestions

 Writing a post after a very very long time 😀.

Last month my wife asked me about if Gramophone records are still available, as a child she had seen them playing and wondered if we can still get them today. This is when all the craze about collecting records started !

After a month, I now have 25 Vinyl records in my collection, mostly Bollywood movies. The below review is about my shopping experience on different websites that I have bought records from, pricing, new vs old records. I am still new to Vinyl records collection, so this information may change at later point.

New Bollywood Records

You can get records under this category for new Bollywood movies like Tiger Zinda Hain, Jab Tak Hain Jaan and others, 90's music is also available under this category with movies like Dil Ka Kya Kasoor, Phool aur Kaante others.

Old movies are also available in new records, movies like Jawani Diwani, Gambler, Joney Mera Naam others are available.

Old Bollywood Records

Old / Original pressing Bollywood records are available on internet on different pricing depending on their condition, which includes condition on the sleeve for the record. There are standard that are prescribed for both Vinyl records and their sleeve Gradings that each seller need to follow, the Gradings are as follows

  1. Near Mint ( NM or M-) - A nearly perfect record. The record shows no obvious signs of wear.
  2. VG+ - Will show some signs that it was played.
  3. VG - Noticeable groove wear and light scratches. Surface noise will not overpower the music.
  4. G+ - Can play without skipping, significant scratches, surface noise, groove wear.
In my experience so far, each seller has their own way of identifying the above and you can get a very a record in very different status. The pricing or NM is way higher than that of VG.

I will suggest to ONLY go for NM and VG+ records, otherwise the listing experience would not be great, especially if you are using headphones to listen to old records. Sometimes the surface sound is just too much and makes the music listening experience bad.


Should one buy new records or Old ones ?

This is a very tricky question, when digital recording was not available, then analog recordings are the closest that you will every get to what the music director wanted it to be. That said, the technology is pretty old and there has been no updates to it for decades now, recordings on tapes have been there for ages now.

New Records are available from

  1. Saregama - they have the largest collection of records across generations, they old records are pretty awesome and you can buy VG+ graded records, but they come with a price that will hit your pockets. The new Vinyls are pathetic and I don't recommend them at all, you can skip any old record presented by Saregama through SONY DADC. The Records are available from Rs 1499 onwards, some are sold at a very HIGH price, like that for Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar movie is available for Rs 7999.
  2. Tips - Tips also has a good collection of movies with them, the pressing company again here is SONY DADC which does not do a good job either with record or even the record cover. I personally don't recommend them, but if you want some 90's music, then you can add to your collection.
  3. Universal - this one is GOOD !, they also have a very good collection of movies. The pressing is great for all the records that I have and I would suggest to buy new records of OLD movies that they release. Some records are sold for very High Price, SAAGAR and SHOLAY are available for Rs 4999 onwards.
  4. T-Series - have not tried yet.
  5. Yash Raj Music - have not tried yet.

To begin with, I started buying records for whatever price they were available, just wanted to get some for playing, but now I only buy if I get the correct price and also more importantly for old records, correct grading ( Only VG+ and above).

The pricing is an issue, considering that this is a tradition that people are trying to keep alive, the records are sold at a very HIGH price according to me. A very few are available for less and Rs 1000, which makes this an expensive hobby. Most of the Good ones from R.D. Burman or Lakshmikant Pyarelal are available expensive, SHOLAY and KARZ for example will not cost you less than 4000 rupees for each ( VG+ condition). So it all depends on how much you want to spend.

I have a few in English records as well and as English records are imported, they will cost you Rs 2500 and above, so it's better to add them to your shopping list which traveling abroad.

You can buy records from lots of ONLINE shops, I will have another blog post for Online shops that sell Records and my experience with them.

happy spinning !






Wednesday, November 18, 2015

R - How to read web logs

R - is one of the most powerful computing tool and it's free, I really wanted to try it out for sometime now.

Got a recent problem, had to read Apache access logs, there are a few apache viewers available, but either they are paid or it is a pain to configure them.

I looked at R, and it was pretty easy to get this going.

I used RStudio for windows, found it really usefull.

1. User read.table() to read the apache log file, please note on WINDOWS, you will have to specify path with double slashes \\, example

df = read.table('C\\Users\\brij\\Desktop\\ccsites.access_log')

at this point if you do head(df) you can see you data vectors





2. You can define your names for columns

 colnames(df)=c("host","ident1","ident2","date","time","request","status","duration")

3. Next, format the DATE

df$date=as.Date(df$date,"[%d/%b/%Y")

4. Plot and see some charts :-)

reqs=as.data.frame(table(df$date))

ggplot(data=reqs, aes(x=as.Date(Var1), y=Freq)) + geom_line() + xlab("Date") + ylab("Requests") + theme(legend.position = "none")





Nice and simple ...




Saturday, May 18, 2013

Never Buy Anything from RELIANCE DIGITAL

I had a very bad experience with Reliance Digital, Gopalan Mall, Old Madras Road.

I bought a Belking N150 Wireless Router for 2500 Bucks, on 10th May 2013 and exactly 7 days later it stopped working. The terms and conditions on back of bill for reliance digital says that they will exchange any product that is faulty withing 7 working days.

I went to Reliance Digital shop for replacement and they refused !!, when I asked them why, they said that the product should be in sell able condition ? What does that mean ? Why would someone return a product that is working ?

They went back on their own terms and conditions, and told me to get in touch of Belkin itself. I asked them to do it, there was a toll free number mentioned on the Belkin cover and they couldn't get in touch with those, when I asked why, they did not have any answer.

A very bad experience and this was mine first shopping at Reliance Digital as well, I just thank god I did not buy anything big from them, they are total cheats.

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Lies that Reliance Digital have said

1. Belking Toll free number, 1-800-419-5546, does not work after 6:00 pm. When I was there at their shop, they called on the same toll free number some 4 -5 times in-front of me. I just came tried calling on the toll free number and it says "the number does no exists". I have no idea why Reliance store manager would lie to me !

2. Again the store manager said, that belking would come at my home and fix this as they have ONSITE warranty. I just read the Warranty card and it says, we need to go to their center to drop the product. Another Lie...!!!

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The Reliance people just seem to tell lies and sell products to people.. stay away from RELIANCE DIGITAL STORE !!!... 


Sunday, November 18, 2012

GMITE VI at IIM Bangalore - Take Away from the Course

Finished off with GMITE VI @ IIM Bangalore - yesterday (17th Nov 2012). Looking back at this time and trying to think how the course was ? What did I gain ? ROI ? etc

To Begin with, I joined the course because the next level of hierarchy in my company required it. The course began in Jan 2012 and ended yesterday, some points

1. This course required a good amount of time and effort from my end, the professors don't teach everything, you have to read a lot yourself.

2. The course was totally justified in the subjects and electives that were taught, we tried to introduce new courses, so next batch may benefit from it.

3. After doing the course, in general, my knowledge has increased and I feel more confident, I think the best you can do with this course is to grow in your organization, most of the professors also feel the same. The course is worth ed, the professors are really good and knowledge gained is excellent.

4. The first week of campus, there were lot of group assignments, so groups were formed the first day. Sadly, those never changed for the entire 11 months, I don't know almost more than half of my class out of 90 students. The groups should change during the course, we tried it, but most of the people didn't like working that way. There is no much time in breaks (10 minutes), so you would hardly get to communicate with people apart from your group.

5. Found some good friends and connections.

Overall, a great experience !!!

-B